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Best Keyboard for Vintage Electric Piano Sounds


I'm looking for a (digital) keyboard with the best sounding vintage electric piano sounds. (Rhodes, Wurlitzer, et cetera.) Nord Electro series? Nord Stage series? Something else? Thanks!

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gonna be a lot of opinions here but i'm sold on the Nord whether it be electro or stage. i consider the rhodes, wurly, cp-80 ( and B3 ) the meat and potato tones that i MUST have covered in the best way possible. i tried many different makes and was sold on the Nord stage 88. I even sold my rhodes after getting the Nord. and yes, i've owned wurlies and a B3 thru the years...the Nord was plenty close enough for me.

Curious as to how the SV-1 and the Nord stuff compares. SV-1 is far more affordable, obv.

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SV-1 has great Rhodes and Wurlies, mediocre pianos and blah organs. But if what you really want is the Rhodes and Wurlies...sounds and effects are great, and it's got a built in tube amp. Plus, I like the action on it and I'm a Yamaha action guy.

The guys over at the electric piano forum rave about the SV-1 as well, but strictly for the Rhodes and Wurlies.

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SV-1 has great Rhodes and Wurlies, mediocre pianos and blah organs. But if what you really want is the Rhodes and Wurlies...sounds and effects are great, and it's got a built in tube amp. Plus, I like the action on it

Totally agree with everything he said ^^^

If you want organs don't go for the SV-1 EVER.

I owned a Nord Electro for about a month and returned it in favor of the SV-1. I'm a real keyboard player so feel is everything to me. SV-1 is possibly my favorite weighted keybed over!

My vote is officially for the SV-1. I prefer the 73-key version for portibility.

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Buy a real rhodes

The Rhodes is the easy part. He wants Wurlie sounds too. They're a bit harder to come by, and more expensive. (and thankfully about half the weight)
Korg sv1 all day... The acoustic pianos are gorgeous btw.. But the Rhodes is great and the wurli is the best I've had outside of a real one... The organs? Meh.

Buy the korg, a laptop and vb3 gsi plugin and you're done forever...

I'm primarily a b3 player and I have never, ever dug the nord as a hammond clone... Sounds like a toy to me. Looks like one too!

Thanks for the feedback. As I am only interested in electric pianos, and perhaps the occasional grand piano, I think I'll go for the SV-1. A real Rhodes would be nice, of course, but I feel that might be overkill for my needs. Thanks!

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The unmistakable tones of Fender Rhodes pianos are some of the best-known keyboard instrument sounds used in the second half of the 20th century. Various Rhodes models have been popularized in a wide range of musical styles, encompassing pop, rock, jazz, and soul, as well as more recent genres such as house and hip-hop. Nearly as popular was the Wurlitzer piano, which enjoyed most of its success in the 1970s.

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Vintage Electric Piano also simulates the physical characteristics of the original instruments, including the movement of the electric piano reeds, tines, and tone bars in the (electric and magnetic) fields of the pickups. It also emulates the ringing, smacking, and bell-like transients of the attack phase as well as the hammer action and damper noises of the original instruments.

The integrated effects include classic equalizer, overdrive, stereo phaser, stereo tremolo, and stereo chorus effects that are commonly used with electric piano sounds.

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Vintage Electric Pianos

We specialize in both sales and rentals of vintage electric pianos.  The two most iconic makes are Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer, and Hohner, Baldwin and Yamaha also made some unique electric pianos.  The types of electric pianos that we sell and service have mechanical actions--usually felt or rubber tipped hammers that strike reeds or tines to produce tones that are amplified electronically.  These instruments have formed a rich part of the history in many genres of American music, from classic jazz and rhythm and blues to funk, rock and roll and beyond.  Please contact us for rental or service and upgrade options to your own electric piano, or stop into the shop to hear and play some models that we currently have for sale.

The slideshow below features various electric pianos that have graced our showroom and shop in the last few years. Just below that are electric pianos that are available for sale, and currently on display at the Brooklyn showroom.

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Electric piano

Electro-mechanical keyboard musical instrument

Not to be confused with electronic piano or digital piano.

An electric piano is a musical instrument which produces sounds when a performer presses the keys of a piano-style musical keyboard. Pressing keys causes mechanical hammers to strike metal strings, metal reeds or wire tines, leading to vibrations which are converted into electrical signals by magnetic pickups, which are then connected to an instrument amplifier and loudspeaker to make a sound loud enough for the performer and audience to hear. Unlike a synthesizer, the electric piano is not an electronic instrument. Instead, it is an electro-mechanical instrument. Some early electric pianos used lengths of wire to produce the tone, like a traditional piano. Smaller electric pianos used short slivers of steel to produce the tone (a lamellophone with a keyboard & pickups). The earliest electric pianos were invented in the late 1920s; the 1929 Neo-Bechsteinelectric grand piano was among the first. Probably the earliest stringless model was Lloyd Loar's Vivi-Tone Clavier. A few other noteworthy producers of electric pianos include Baldwin Piano and Organ Company and the Wurlitzer Company.

Early electric piano recordings include Duke Ellington's in 1955 and Sun Ra's India as well as other tracks from the 1956 sessions included on his second album Super Sonic Jazz (a.k.a. Super Sonic Sounds). The popularity of the electric piano began to grow in the late 1950s after Ray Charles's 1959 hit record "What'd I Say", reaching its height during the 1970s, after which they were progressively displaced by more lightweight electronic pianos capable of piano-like sounds without the disadvantages of electric pianos' heavy weight and moving mechanical parts. Another factor driving their development and acceptance was the progressive electrification of popular music and the need for a portable keyboard instrument capable of high-volume amplification. Musicians adopted a number of types of domestic electric pianos for rock and pop use. This encouraged their manufacturers to modify them for stage use and then develop models primarily intended for stage use.

Digital pianos that provide an emulated electric piano sound have largely supplanted the actual electro-mechanical instruments in the 2010s, due to the small size, low weight and versatility of digital instruments, which can produce a huge range of tones besides piano tones (e.g., emulations of Hammond organ sounds, synthesizer sounds, etc.). However, some performers still perform and record with vintage electric pianos. In 2009, Rhodes produced a new line of electro-mechanical pianos, known as the Rhodes Mark 7, followed by an offering from Vintage Vibe.[1]

History[edit]

The Neo-Bechstein electric piano was built in 1929. The Vierlang-Forster electric piano was introduced in 1937. The RCA Storytone electric piano was built in 1939 in a joint venture between Story & Clark and RCA. The case was designed by John Vassos, the American industrial designer. It debuted at the 1939 World's Fair. The piano has normal strings and hammer action but no soundboard. The sound is amplified through electromagnetic pickups, circuitry and a speaker system, making it the world's first commercially available electric piano.

Many types were initially designed as a less-expensive alternative to an acoustic piano for home or school use. Some electric pianos were designed with multiple keyboards that could be connected for use in school or college piano labs, so that teachers could simultaneously instruct a group of students using headphones.

Types[edit]

Yamaha CP-70M

Strings and hammers of Yamaha CP-70

"Electric piano" is a heterogeneous category encompassing several different instruments which vary in their sound-producing mechanisms and consequent timbral characters.

Struck strings[edit]

Main article: Electric grand piano

Yamaha, Baldwin, Helpinstill and Kawai's electric pianos are actual grand or upright pianos with strings and hammers. The Helpinstill models have a traditional soundboard; the others have none, and are more akin to a solid-body electric guitar. On Yamaha, Baldwin and Kawai's pianos, the vibration of the strings is converted to an electrical signal by piezoelectric pickups under the bridge. Helpinstill's instruments use a set of electromagnetic pickups attached to the instrument's frame. All these instruments have a tonal character similar to that of an acoustic piano.

Struck reeds[edit]

Wurlitzer EP-210

Struck reeds of a Wurlitzer electric piano (shown here with the hard cover removed)

Wurlitzer electronic pianos (sometimes called "Wurli" as a nickname) use flat steel reeds struck by felt hammers. The reeds fit within a comb-like metal plate, and the reeds and plate together form an electrostatic or capacitive pickup system, using a DC voltage of 170v. This system produces a very distinctive tone – sweet and vibraphone-like when played gently, and developing a hollow resonance as the keys are played harder. The reeds are tuned by adding or removing mass from a lump of solder at the free end of the reed. Replacement reeds are furnished with a slight excess of solder, and thus tuned "flat"; the user is required – by repeated trial and error – to gradually file off the excess solder until the correct tuning is achieved. The Columbia Elepian (also branded as Maestro), the Brazilian-made Suette, and the Hohner Electra-Piano use a reed system similar to the Wurlitzer but with electromagnetic pickups similar to the Rhodes piano.

Struck tuning-forks[edit]

The tuning fork here refers to the struck element having two vibrating parts – physically it bears little resemblance to a traditional type. In Fender Rhodes instruments, the struck portion of the "fork" is a tine of stiff steel wire. The other part of the fork, parallel and adjacent to the tine, is the tonebar, a sturdy steel bar which acts as a resonator and adds sustain to the sound. The tine is fitted with a spring which can be moved along its length to allow the pitch to be varied for fine-tuning. The tine is struck by the small neoprene (originally felt) tip of a hammer activated by a greatly simplified piano action (each key has only three moving parts including the damper). Each tine has an electromagnetic pickup placed just beyond its tip (see also tonewheel). The Rhodes piano has a distinctive bell-like tone, fuller than the Wurlitzer, with longer sustain and with a "growl" when played hard.

Plucked reeds[edit]

Hohner Pianet (below)

The Hohner Pianet uses adhesive pads made from an undressed leather surface cushioned by a foam rubber backing. The leather is saturated with a viscous silicone oil to adhere to and pluck metal reeds. When the key is released, the pad acts as a damper. An electrostatic pickup system similar to Wurlitzer's is used. The tone produced resembles that of the Wurlitzer but brighter and with less sustain, largely owing to the design having no sustain pedal mechanism. The same firm's "Cembalet" uses rubber plectra and separate urethane foam dampers but is otherwise almost identical. Hohner's later "Pianet T" uses silicone rubber suction pads rather than adhesive pads and replaces the electrostatic system with passive electromagnetic pickups similar to those of the Rhodes, the reeds themselves however being magnetized. The Pianet T has a far mellower sound not unlike that of the Rhodes instruments. None of the above instruments have the facility for a sustain pedal.

A close copy of the Cembalet is the "Weltmeister Claviset," also marketed as the "Selmer Pianotron." This has electromagnetic pickups with a battery-powered preamplifier, and later models have multiple tone filters and a sustain pedal.

Other electric keyboard instruments[edit]

Hohner Clavinet D6

Tangent action of a Clavinet :
1. Tuning / 2. Damper / 3. Tangent / 4. Anvil / 5. Key / 6. String / 7. Pickup / 8. Tailpiece

Although not technically pianos, the following are electric harpsichords and clavichords.

Baldwin's "Solid-Body Electric Harpsichord" or "Combo Harpsichord" is an aluminum-framed instrument of fairly traditional form, with no soundboard and with two sets of electromagnetic pickups, one near the plectra and the other at the strings' midpoint. The instrument's sound has something of the character of an electric guitar, and has occasionally been used to stand in for one in modern chamber music. Roger Penney of Bermuda Triangle Band worked on the design and development of the original instrument for the Cannon Guild Company, a premier harpsichord maker located in Cambridge, Massachusetts. This instrument had an aluminium bar frame, a spruce wood soundboard, bar magnetic pickups, and a Plexiglas (clear plastic) openable lid. The prototypes and design were sold to Baldwin who made some modifications, and then manufactured the instrument under their own name.

Hohner's "Clavinet" is essentially an electric clavichord. A rubber pad under each key presses the string onto a metal anvil, causing the "fretted" portion of the string to vibrate. When the key is released, the whole string is theoretically free to vibrate but is immediately damped by yarn woven across the tuning machine-head end. Two electromagnetic single-coil pickups, one under and one over the strings, detect the vibrations which are then pre-amplified and filtered in preparation for amplification by a guitar amp.

See also[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^Jon Regen (21 November 2012). "Vintage Vibe Electric Pianos". Keyboard Magazine. Archived from the original on 3 November 2013. Retrieved 27 June 2013.
  2. ^Fritz W. Winckel (1931). "Das Radio-Klavier von Bechstein-Siemens-Nernst". Die Umschau. 35: 840–843. ISSN 0722-8562.
  3. ^Hans-W. Schmitz (1990). "Der Bechstein-Siemens-Nernst-Flügel". Das mechanische Musikinstrument. 16. Jahrgang (published April 1990) (49): 21–27. ISSN 0721-6092.(Technical report)
  4. ^Hans-Joachim Braun (2004). "Music Engineers. The Remarkable Career of Winston E. Knock, Electronic Organ Designer and NASA Chief of Electronics"(PDF). IEEE Conference on the History of Electronics. Archived from the original(PDF) on 2012-03-09.
  5. ^Wolfgang Voigt (1988). "Oskar Vierling, ein Wegbereiter der Elektroakustik für den Musikinstrumentenbau". Das Musikinstrument. 37 (1/2): 214–221. (2/3): 172-176.
  6. ^"#732: Story & Clark Storytone (1941) artdeco design electric piano". Collection Checklist(PDF). National Music Centre. p. 50. Archived from the original(PDF) on 2014-06-30.
  7. ^Story & Clark EST.1857: Where Tradition Meets Technology(catalog). Quaker Drive Seneca, PA: QRS Music Technologies, Inc. 2008. p. 2.
  8. ^"RCA Storytone Electric Piano". Antiquity Music, LLC. Archived from the original on 2013-06-28.

External links[edit]

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Product Identifiers

  • Brand

    Yamaha

  • MPN

    YPR7

  • eBay Product ID (ePID)

    1382210065

Product Key Features

  • Number of Keys

    61

  • Size

    Large

  • Features

    Speaker, Built-in Effects, Battery Powered Option

  • Experience Level

    Beginner

  • Color

    Black

  • Type

    Keyboard

  • Instrument

    Electronic Keyboard

Dimensions

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    4 in

  • Width

    13 in

  • Weight

    15.5 lb

  • Length

    35 in

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